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ARTICLE:Materials required and reverse engineering |
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Description: The article title isn't really a question. So here are some questions to go with it and I think they are fair questions to ask both teacher and student. Is a Material or Supply List really necessary when selling or buying a tutorial? How do you decide? In my experience it isn't important to have the Materials list. I am however interested in the Tools list because tools tend to be more expensive or harder to acquire, for example a pasta machine. Although most projects for polymer clay call for pasta machines as it is one of the major tools, a beginner is more likely to choose a tutorial without a pasta machine. A beginner will want to try polymer clay before taking the 'dive'. Of course the pro of disclosing both the material and tools lists, is that it lets a crafter decide beforehand if they already have all the necessary Materials to complete a Tutorial. If, however, someone really WANTS to know how to do achieve a certain look or technique, they will just purchase it, whether they have the list or not. And sometimes a crafter just wants to 'know' and not necessarily 'do'. Personally I have purchased tutorials with and without lists, some for pure curiosity and never actually made the project. I'm willing to pay for the knowledge and for what someone has worked for because I as a teacher myself appreciate it. So what major pitfall is there with giving a materials list along with a submission? Someone with enough claying experience will be able to reverse engineer the item. Ok...by just seeing the list alone this would be difficult, but add a photo to that list and that someone with enough skill sees both and goes 'aha...here are the magic key ingredients' and what the finished piece should look like. The ever diligent 'make aware and to give credit where credit is due' is pounded into us over and over. Is it enough? There are those of us with the ethics to do the right thing, even thank the teacher by leaving a note and thank you, but when someone actually emails and says they were able to do your tutorial with just the 'ingredients' list, that is disturbing. In the end, with list and photos in hand, with reverse engineering accomplished, the originator never receives credit and is lost in translation. The how-to and technique then ends up getting passed along as if it is a common jelly roll cane. I feel that listing 'materials' should be an option ...since the actual tutorial does have the list and if someone really wanted to know, they could email the teacher and ask what materials were necessary. In big classes and workshops, including Bead&Button classes, a write up will say Tools required are "A B C..." and Supply list will be provided (via email and usually after class registration). Besides, isn't a material list because it is part of a tutorial just as much copyright protected as the tutorial itself? | |
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My opinion is that the materials list is almost a have-to. Looking at that list lets me know whether or not I can afford to buy the tutorial, in that if I can't afford the materials there's no sense in buying the tute. Money is too tight these days to spend it on something that could remain unusable for maybe the better part of a year. The tool list for me doesn't matter - I have an extensive tool collection. But materials are a whole 'nuther story. Had to stop buying when my husband's job ended in January - right now I have to pass on buying even copper wire. But if/when I do buy a tutorial, you can be darn sure the materials list is the first thing I check and it DOES end up being the deciding factor.
Anyway, except for the simplest of tutorials, there can be too many pitfalls in looking at a piece of jewelry and attempting to make it from the picture. Beginners and some intermediate 'students' can often NEED those instructions and tips found inside the tute. There's almost always going to be something you won't/can't figure out without seeing exactly how it's done, so the person will probably end up buying the tute (if they've got the money to spend). And.. if you've been making jewelry for years you're most likely an expert anyway so wouldn't be buying instructions. So.. I have a hard time seeing the logic behind keeping the materials list a big secret.
Marla
I think giving a material list is far more important than a tools list. Tools like a pasta maker are almost assumed but if materials include items like foils, resin, anything outside of the actual polymer clay, they should be listed. Not everyone will have these, many may need to buy them to create the project, even the colors should be listed, especially if a large amount may be needed.
Having to purchase materials may not stop me from buying the tutorial, but nothing is more frustrating than spending 5 dollars on a tut only to find out you need 25+ dollars worth of new materials that you don't know if you will use again.
If you are able to reverse engineer a tut from the material list, you probably could have without that list. this may be true in many cases. I'm at a point where I mainly just buy techniques tuts becaue most item tutorials, I can look at it with or without a material list and figure out a way I can make it.
Fair enough. I see a lot of tutorials listed on the net, not giving any lists, and true enough, projects are much simpler than techniques as one can just use materials on hand, but if you saw a technique that you really wanted to do, then it shouldn't matter if it cost a few more dollars for the materials required. For a beginner it may be more difficult to decide tho as they are just starting to acquire materials. Still, anyone enjoying polymer clay would be willing to collect more materials to learn everything there is to know. Besides, books usually list all those materials one should have on hand anyway and it's quite a bit of material...
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Let me put in my 2 cents. I buy tutorials to show I care for the teacher. Not just because I need it. I pay for the right to use their ideas. The world is full of selfish greedy people all over that will steal before they do anything else and you can't stop them. Don't punish the people like us because they are trash and like to rub your nose in how mean they are. I refuse to even attempt another's idea until I buy their tutorial. If someone does not have a tutorial, I ask if I can purchase the rights to use their ideas. I have done this with a couple of sellers. Both gave me free permission to use but because I did not pay for it, I have never done the work. I am just weird that way.
this site should have tool lists
basic - intermediate - expanded- exotic.
and maybe some substitutions examples for newbies like " deck of cards tape and a full pop can or acrylic rod in place of a pasta machine) a worksurface or a tile or piece of glass.
that way contributors could design thier tutorials around the lists. additional tools could be advertised as "additional items needed are listed within the tutorial)
as far as materials I would want to know that i would need 3 colors of alcohol inks at $3.50 a pop and an $8.00 pack of gold leaf.
maybe have a basic - intermediate - expanded and exotic materials list too.
we all know that once someone has thier first sucess with clay they will be hooked and own every tool, inclusion, coating and every thing else for clay possible within a year !!
Just Sayin
jan montarsi
jembox
Substitutions are fine, especially when acrylic paint will work instead of mica powder, or a textured piece of fabric instead of a stamp, a hat-pin or toothpick instead of a needle tool, but with substitutions questions can arise, such as 'how do you USE a deck of cards to roll various thicknesses' or how do you use liquid polymer clay instead of resin? Having to work alternatives into a tutorial could mean unnecessary technical work for an instructor, especially where photography and added steps are involved. Labeling tutorials 'beginner', 'easy', 'intermediate' and 'advanced' is already a way to let someone know that the project may involve more materials/tools as they are a step up. For intermediate and advanced one would expect that students have most of the materials on hand already (and know how to use them).
As you say, someone with their first success will be hooked and want to own every tool..." but for a beginner tutorial, I would definitely list very basic materials and tools AND workable substitutions. I view a Beginner as someone who has either never touched clay before and would want to test-drive polymer clay before investing in much. Easy I see as someone with just a little bit of experience and that person probably has a few basics on hand already...but not so for intermediate or advanced. Those clayers probably already possess a great deal of material on hand and probably won't mind purchasing some bottles of ink, especially when a project looks so enticing! lol
(everything but the kitchen sink...oh wait a minute, that too!)
Tina
Hi Tina,
I definitely agree with you, that it should be every instructors choice what information to disclose before their tutorial or class is paid for. Of course I like to see a materials list with the description, but whether or not there is one would not be a deciding factor in my purchase. I understand the apprehension in listing too much information, and the fear instructors may have of their work being stolen, copied and claimed by someone else.
The instructor works hard, and puts in a lot of time to first create the design/technique, and again to create the tutorial. They put themselves into it. It is tragic (gross understatement) when someone comes along and just takes that away. It does happen, most of us have seen it happen to someone we know if not ourselves, and it's sad that there are people who do this.
I buy tutorials just because I really like the design or want to learn the technique. If I see something I love I always wonder if it could be gone if I wait too long, because that has happened to me. So even if the tut is too advanced for me, I will sometimes, well...a lot of times get it anyway and save it until I can attempt it. The very first tutorial I bought was one that I still am not ready to try, but I loved it! I am glad I got it because the instructor left JL. In these cases, it didn't matter to me if there was a list of materials or not, I still would have bought them, and by the time I do them I will probably have accumulated the materials or had time to buy them gradually.
So, my long drawn out point is that I understand any instructor wanting to protect whatever part of their work that they can. No, it may not always work...someone, somewhere will be able to copy it regardless, but it may lesson the instances.
Shae :)